JouJouJoueb - Gestion de l'historique

Gestion de l'historique

--> Palimpseste virtuel

Dans un wiki classique (ça-y-est, je remets ça!), les pages sont des palimpsestes virtuels : on a toujours accès aux différentes versions qui ont existé (et même, on peut voir les différences entre les versions), avec leur auteur, la date, etc.

Un outil qui fait (presque) tout ça automatiquement, c'est CVS. Sinon, il y a diff aussi (mais c'est plus facile si le serveur est sous Unix, ce que j'ignore). Autre avantage de CVS : il gère les conflits (quand deux personnes modifient une page en même temps). Quand il n'y a pas de conflit (les modifications ne sont pas au même endroit dans le fichier), il synthétise, et sinon, il signale où se trouvent les conflits (par des marqueurs textuels).

Enfin bref, le principal avantage, c'est qu'on n'a pas peur d'abîmer une page, ou de faire un bêtise: on peut toujours récupérer une ancienne version. Ca limite la vandalisme aussi.

Sans cette fonctionnalité, on perd un peu du fun d'un Wiki.

Je sais aussi que ça prend du temps d'ajouter une telle fonctionnalité : je ne serai donc pas exigeant. ;)

Ecrit par H-I, le Samedi 30 Août 2003, 01:25 dans la rubrique Premiers Pas.

Commentaires :

Biz

30-08-03 à 02:07

Dans un wiki classique (ça-y-est, je remets ça!)

C'est drole, justement je lisais ceci un peu avant que tu publies ton article. ;-)

The original and wildly successful Wiki as created by WardCunningham. This Wiki has been crafted after it. The WikiWikiWeb was originally about people, projects, and patterns. It's not clear what it's about now. The pattern stuff that was on wiki's mind circa '95-'97 was pretty groovy. Then it took a turn for XP. Then it just kind of turned into a free-for-all.
The original Wiki's design goals were simplicity and functionality. While it may at first seem to be fairly poorly designed, what you perceive are "misbugs." That is, they were intended to be that way for the greater good.
An excellent example would be the lack of VersionHistory. Many Wiki:WikiWikiClones have implemented a form of version history instead of leaving only the last changed version. However, with full history, the medium will never forget what you said. We want to emphasize content now, not then. A shift in focus seems like a heavy price to pay just for a little security.
[Meatball - WikiWikiWeb]

Tout ca pour dire qu'il n'y a pas de "wiki classique". En tous cas c'est l'impression que j'ai apres avoir explore quelques dizaines de wikis.

Ceci dit, je suis d'accord avec toi, un historique, ca serait bien. Par contre, ca rend les choses un peu plus compliquees a implementer, voire beaucoup plus compliquees. Donc je ne suis pas sur que cela en vaille la peine. J'ai plein d'autres projets dans mes cartons qui sont en competition pour mon temps et mon attention. Peut etre que le Projet Abeilles permettra a d'autres de participer. Tu codes ? :)

Je pense que je vais attendre de voir quels seront les usages des jouebwikis. Par exemple, un wiki pour une seule personne (l'auteur du joueb), c'est deja super pratique pour certaines applications. La partie wiki de ton joueb est pour l'instant non-editables aux autres personnes. Si cela reste comme cela, l'historique est quasiment inutile. Il n'y a pas non plus d'historique quand tu edites un article ou un commentaire.

Si la plupart des jouebwikis sont ouverts a tous, effectivement, peut-etre qu'un historique serait utile. Ou eventuellement quelque chose de plus simple : une ou quelques sauvegardes qu'il serait possible de consulter et restaurer au cas ou un VandaleWiki passerait par la.

H-I

30-08-03 à 02:41

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Bon, je suis d'autant moins exigeant que j'ai un autre projet à développer, et que je n'ai déjà pas assez de temps pour lui (ECTOR pour ne pas le citer).

Et il m'a semblé que tu codais en perl? Je n'ai aucune expérience en perl (j'espère que tu es des rares qui font du perl maintenable ;).

En tout cas, j'en ai appris aujourd'hui sur l'histoire des wikis!

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